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	<title>Comments on: What is Rod Bruinooge&#8217;s Private Members Bill Really About?</title>
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		<title>By: meow</title>
		<link>http://www.religiousrightalert.ca/2010/04/17/what-is-rod-bruinooges-private-members-bill-really-about/comment-page-1/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>meow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really care about your biased left wing views? It&#039;s so obvious to me that you have never seen a live abortion... I suggest you do that then shoot your mouth off as you see baby parts come out of a woman... ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really care about your biased left wing views? It&#8217;s so obvious to me that you have never seen a live abortion&#8230; I suggest you do that then shoot your mouth off as you see baby parts come out of a woman&#8230; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: edee</title>
		<link>http://www.religiousrightalert.ca/2010/04/17/what-is-rod-bruinooges-private-members-bill-really-about/comment-page-1/#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator>edee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that there are a few (?) Liberals in the House pro-life caucus, who would no doubt agree with the initiative. 

And yes, motive factors into crime in determining intent.  This murder was heinous.  The fact that they beat her and left her alive and then came back and beat her again, speaks to the violent nature of the murderers.

But I think they would have been just as brutal if the motive was money, or anything else.

We don&#039;t need a separate law, unless it is going to include intimidation or coercion to &quot;not&quot; have an abortion.  Only the woman has that right and should not be &quot;intimidated&quot; or &quot;coerced&quot; to make any decision.

But again I believe that the true intent of this bill, as with any other that skates around the issue is aligning abortion with violence.

And knowing the iron control that Stephen Harper places on his caucus, if he really didn&#039;t want the bill presented, we would not be having this conversation.

And when Harper votes &quot;no&quot; it raises his creds with pro-choicers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that there are a few (?) Liberals in the House pro-life caucus, who would no doubt agree with the initiative. </p>
<p>And yes, motive factors into crime in determining intent.  This murder was heinous.  The fact that they beat her and left her alive and then came back and beat her again, speaks to the violent nature of the murderers.</p>
<p>But I think they would have been just as brutal if the motive was money, or anything else.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need a separate law, unless it is going to include intimidation or coercion to &#8220;not&#8221; have an abortion.  Only the woman has that right and should not be &#8220;intimidated&#8221; or &#8220;coerced&#8221; to make any decision.</p>
<p>But again I believe that the true intent of this bill, as with any other that skates around the issue is aligning abortion with violence.</p>
<p>And knowing the iron control that Stephen Harper places on his caucus, if he really didn&#8217;t want the bill presented, we would not be having this conversation.</p>
<p>And when Harper votes &#8220;no&#8221; it raises his creds with pro-choicers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, MP&#039;s hold views on this issue from all parties.

The PMO&#039;s office has made clear they will not be supporting this bill.
Bruinrooge is a Conservative MP.
Same thing when Epp introduced his. (C-484)

It is the right of any MP to draft a private members bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, MP&#8217;s hold views on this issue from all parties.</p>
<p>The PMO&#8217;s office has made clear they will not be supporting this bill.<br />
Bruinrooge is a Conservative MP.<br />
Same thing when Epp introduced his. (C-484)</p>
<p>It is the right of any MP to draft a private members bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Issachar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Issachar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But a racist motivation for an assault carries a higher sentence than one for simply robbery even if the assaults are identical.

Motives are not secondary to our justice system or to how the public thinks about crime.  They haven&#039;t been for some time if indeed they ever were.


I notice also that your post seems to try to define opposition to abortion as a Tory position.  This is simply not true.  There are anti-abortion Liberals as well.  Trying to get our political parties to line up on the sides of an abortion debate is an imported culture war that we don&#039;t need in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But a racist motivation for an assault carries a higher sentence than one for simply robbery even if the assaults are identical.</p>
<p>Motives are not secondary to our justice system or to how the public thinks about crime.  They haven&#8217;t been for some time if indeed they ever were.</p>
<p>I notice also that your post seems to try to define opposition to abortion as a Tory position.  This is simply not true.  There are anti-abortion Liberals as well.  Trying to get our political parties to line up on the sides of an abortion debate is an imported culture war that we don&#8217;t need in this country.</p>
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